Comments on: Inspiring Letter of Support from Derrick Jensen (Endgame series) and Lierre Keith http://www.peacefuluprising.org/inspiring-letter-of-support-from-derrick-jensen-endgame-series-and-lierre-keith-20100221 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 19:25:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Ty http://www.peacefuluprising.org/inspiring-letter-of-support-from-derrick-jensen-endgame-series-and-lierre-keith-20100221/comment-page-1#comment-735 Ty Tue, 13 Apr 2010 19:43:59 +0000 http://www.peacefuluprising.org/?p=63#comment-735 Not in this lifetime. I used to have great respect for Derrick Jensen. But I was shocked to learn that he advocates the massive and global killing of animals in the name of "sustainability." The level of ignorance required to stake out this position is even more shocking. Lierre Keith's book is FULL of misinformation. So much, in fact, it's difficult to know where to start. Aside from her extrapolation of the personal to explicate the general: Ecology 101: There isn't enough land on the planet to raise animals sustainably for human consumption. And never mind that there are entire cultures that have been living on a vegetarian diet for centuries. If Lierre Keith has decided she wants to eat meat, she's going to insist that everybody else do it, too--even if it means fudging the facts, and extremely so. Animal Rights 101: "Humanely raised" does not equal "humanely slaughtered" (there's an oxymoron if there ever was one). Apparently, however, the sentience and emotional lives of animals are insignificant to Mr. Jensen. Their interests are to be subjected to the gluttony of humans. No land ethic, no movement forward to care for the animals as members of our community. "Beyond Hope," by Mr. Jensen, no longer holds any inspiration whatsoever. A man who argues on behalf of the destruction of the nonhuman is not a man who has anything to teach me. Not in this lifetime. I used to have great respect for Derrick Jensen. But I was shocked to learn that he advocates the massive and global killing of animals in the name of “sustainability.” The level of ignorance required to stake out this position is even more shocking. Lierre Keith’s book is FULL of misinformation. So much, in fact, it’s difficult to know where to start. Aside from her extrapolation of the personal to explicate the general: Ecology 101: There isn’t enough land on the planet to raise animals sustainably for human consumption. And never mind that there are entire cultures that have been living on a vegetarian diet for centuries. If Lierre Keith has decided she wants to eat meat, she’s going to insist that everybody else do it, too–even if it means fudging the facts, and extremely so. Animal Rights 101: “Humanely raised” does not equal “humanely slaughtered” (there’s an oxymoron if there ever was one). Apparently, however, the sentience and emotional lives of animals are insignificant to Mr. Jensen. Their interests are to be subjected to the gluttony of humans. No land ethic, no movement forward to care for the animals as members of our community. “Beyond Hope,” by Mr. Jensen, no longer holds any inspiration whatsoever. A man who argues on behalf of the destruction of the nonhuman is not a man who has anything to teach me.

]]> By: What http://www.peacefuluprising.org/inspiring-letter-of-support-from-derrick-jensen-endgame-series-and-lierre-keith-20100221/comment-page-1#comment-365 What Sat, 20 Mar 2010 23:36:52 +0000 http://www.peacefuluprising.org/?p=63#comment-365 You just posted something by Derrick Jensen and Lierre Keith, both of whom advocate for killing humans to save nature. How is that in line with the non-violent perspective of this site? You just posted something by Derrick Jensen and Lierre Keith, both of whom advocate for killing humans to save nature. How is that in line with the non-violent perspective of this site?

]]> By: George L. Monahan http://www.peacefuluprising.org/inspiring-letter-of-support-from-derrick-jensen-endgame-series-and-lierre-keith-20100221/comment-page-1#comment-259 George L. Monahan Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:11:43 +0000 http://www.peacefuluprising.org/?p=63#comment-259 We are organizing a walk from San Francisco CA to Washington D.C. to raise the awareness of the public and their legislative representatives of the need to amend the Constitution of the United States to wrest the control of government from corporate money and restore it to human citizens. We are working in concert with http://www.movetoamend.org/we-corporations for media outreach to help raise the voices of the people across the nation. We will walk in one hour shifts, 24/7, rain or shine, starting at Golden Gate Park, in San Francisco, on May 16th and complete the walk at the Lincoln Memorial on August 1st. We will camp in state parks and recreation areas along the way and move camp every few days as the walk progresses. We represent no political agenda save to restore the unalienable and Constitutional rights of human beings and the dominion of human citizens over corporations. We believe that legislation and honest philosophical debate, of the people, by the people and for the people, can only begin when people control the government. We believe that no true benefit to human citizens can issue from a government controlled by corporate purse strings. Unless and until corporations loose the claim of Personhood as opined by a Supreme Court in the 1880’s, no limit of the expenditure of money as speech can be legislated. We hold no biases or prejudices of any human being based on: choices in their own lifestyle, their culture, biological heritage, or personal, religious or political, beliefs. We welcome diversity in this group and celebrate our common purpose. If you would like to take part in all or any part of this political exercise, please respond to this e-mail and we will be glad to answer any questions and fill in details. Thank you, George L. Monahan We are organizing a walk from San Francisco CA to Washington D.C. to raise the awareness of the public and their legislative representatives of the need to amend the Constitution of the United States to wrest the control of government from corporate money and restore it to human citizens.

We are working in concert with http://www.movetoamend.org/we-corporations for media outreach to help raise the voices of the people across the nation.

We will walk in one hour shifts, 24/7, rain or shine, starting at Golden Gate Park, in San Francisco, on May 16th and complete the walk at the Lincoln Memorial on August 1st. We will camp in state parks and recreation areas along the way and move camp every few days as the walk progresses.

We represent no political agenda save to restore the unalienable and Constitutional rights of human beings and the dominion of human citizens over corporations.

We believe that legislation and honest philosophical debate, of the people, by the people and for the people, can only begin when people control the government.

We believe that no true benefit to human citizens can issue from a government controlled by corporate purse strings. Unless and until corporations loose the claim of Personhood as opined by a Supreme Court in the 1880’s, no limit of the expenditure of money as speech can be legislated.

We hold no biases or prejudices of any human being based on: choices in their own lifestyle, their culture, biological heritage, or personal, religious or political, beliefs. We welcome diversity in this group and celebrate our common purpose.

If you would like to take part in all or any part of this political exercise, please respond to this e-mail and we will be glad to answer any questions and fill in details.

Thank you,

George L. Monahan

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